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Swampy, I can attest to toughness of a 350 "Big Bear"...I owned a 1992 model,and sold it to a friend in North Carolina...he still use it today....Very little maintenance,change oil,and new tires etc..no brakes..you just can't kill them "Bears"


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jhess wrote:

Swampy, I can attest to toughness of a 350 "Big Bear"...I owned a 1992 model,and sold it to a friend in North Carolina...he still use it today....Very little maintenance,change oil,and new tires etc..no brakes..you just can't kill them "Bears"


Yeah Jhess it was like a Timex watch, only thing it took about 4 1/2 quarts of oil when you changed it because the transfer case ran in the same oil. My 1987 had a disc brake on the back axle and it would last for like 4 yrs but the front drums sucked. No matter though because it being full time four-wheel the disc rear was all you needed but it would eat-up tires if you rode much on pavement.


Silver limited Edition 2002 660 Grizzly.1987 Big Bear 350 4wd.Past Wheeliers Honda 250 sx,Honda 200m Honda 185s.



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Rincon-newby wrote:

My brother has had the older Grizzly 660, and now the 700 griz and just bought the 550 griz, and I have to say the Rincon in normal 4 wheel drive is much easier to ride than either of his three grizzlys. He has said himself that he does not like riding his 700 in 4x4 mode. On the Rincon, you can hardly tell the difference between in and out of 4 wheel drive. I have never ridden a Brute Force 750, but I like the concept of its locker. That would be the locker setup I would like to see on the Rincon. My recent trip to Chadwich OHV in Missouri was a testament to the climbing ability of the Rincon. Most all the trails were rated hard to real hard, and took alot of skill to navigate. Rode all of them in 4x4 mode, and can truthfully say that the Rincon was easy to handle throughout that ride. Not to say that after four days of trail riding on that trip our arms were not sore. The Rincon has a one inch lower clearance than the Grizzly at 10", but that one inch makes a huge difference in handling between the two. There is no power steering or locker on the Rincon, but it definitely has a more fun factor than the griz.
RN, I think you're suffering Honda dementia again. I'll never argue the Rincon's trail handling excellence with you. But if you really had trouble riding a Grizz 660 in 4x4, you must have string beans for arms, or I suspect you tried it with diff lock engaged, which does make steering noticeably harder. I started this thread because I'm sick of the troublesome, picayune, problems with my Grizz. But all in all, it has been a good machine. It's never left me stranded on the trail; just in my driveway, when I needed to plow snow. No contesting the Honda's are probably the most reliable machines, and that's what I'm looking for at this time. If I buy a Rincon, the first mod would defiantly be the front locker kit. I've maintained my Grizz obsessively, I should not have had these problems. Time to move on.




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GreyGrizz wrote:

Rincon-newby wrote:

My brother has had the older Grizzly 660, and now the 700 griz and just bought the 550 griz, and I have to say the Rincon in normal 4 wheel drive is much easier to ride than either of his three grizzlys. He has said himself that he does not like riding his 700 in 4x4 mode. On the Rincon, you can hardly tell the difference between in and out of 4 wheel drive. I have never ridden a Brute Force 750, but I like the concept of its locker. That would be the locker setup I would like to see on the Rincon. My recent trip to Chadwich OHV in Missouri was a testament to the climbing ability of the Rincon. Most all the trails were rated hard to real hard, and took alot of skill to navigate. Rode all of them in 4x4 mode, and can truthfully say that the Rincon was easy to handle throughout that ride. Not to say that after four days of trail riding on that trip our arms were not sore. The Rincon has a one inch lower clearance than the Grizzly at 10", but that one inch makes a huge difference in handling between the two. There is no power steering or locker on the Rincon, but it definitely has a more fun factor than the griz.
RN, I think you're suffering Honda dementia again. I'll never argue the Rincon's trail handling excellence with you. But if you really had trouble riding a Grizz 660 in 4x4, you must have string beans for arms, or I suspect you tried it with diff lock engaged, which does make steering noticeably harder. I started this thread because I'm sick of the troublesome, picayune, problems with my Grizz. But all in all, it has been a good machine. It's never left me stranded on the trail; just in my driveway, when I needed to plow snow. No contesting the Honda's are probably the most reliable machines, and that's what I'm looking for at this time. If I buy a Rincon, the first mod would defiantly be the front locker kit. I've maintained my Grizz obsessively, I should not have had these problems. Time to move on.

This is funny greygriz, but come to think of it , I am getting along in age and the dimentia charge might have some merit to it. But no, I do know the difference of riding a Grizzly in regular 4x4 mode and in the "Locked" mode. I found the 660 and 700 shared the same charactoristic when riding in the 4x4 mode. My brother did not purchase the 700 Grizzly with PS because of the $900 extra charge. There is more feedback resistance from the grizzly when in normal 4x4 mode, and when locked, it is best advised to be going straight-line. I don't need to tell you that though. I haven't ridden his new 550 Griz, but am looking forward to it next time I am in Louisiana and go riding with him. On our last trail trip, I did go up against him on his 700 Griz and had no problem keeping up with him on the trails when he was the rabbit. It was not easy, but I did open up on him when he was giving chase while I was the rabbit. But who are we but a couple of older guys.

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Rincon-newby wrote:

GreyGrizz wrote:

Rincon-newby wrote:

My brother has had the older Grizzly 660, and now the 700 griz and just bought the 550 griz, and I have to say the Rincon in normal 4 wheel drive is much easier to ride than either of his three grizzlys. He has said himself that he does not like riding his 700 in 4x4 mode. On the Rincon, you can hardly tell the difference between in and out of 4 wheel drive. I have never ridden a Brute Force 750, but I like the concept of its locker. That would be the locker setup I would like to see on the Rincon. My recent trip to Chadwich OHV in Missouri was a testament to the climbing ability of the Rincon. Most all the trails were rated hard to real hard, and took alot of skill to navigate. Rode all of them in 4x4 mode, and can truthfully say that the Rincon was easy to handle throughout that ride. Not to say that after four days of trail riding on that trip our arms were not sore. The Rincon has a one inch lower clearance than the Grizzly at 10", but that one inch makes a huge difference in handling between the two. There is no power steering or locker on the Rincon, but it definitely has a more fun factor than the griz.
RN, I think you're suffering Honda dementia again. I'll never argue the Rincon's trail handling excellence with you. But if you really had trouble riding a Grizz 660 in 4x4, you must have string beans for arms, or I suspect you tried it with diff lock engaged, which does make steering noticeably harder. I started this thread because I'm sick of the troublesome, picayune, problems with my Grizz. But all in all, it has been a good machine. It's never left me stranded on the trail; just in my driveway, when I needed to plow snow. No contesting the Honda's are probably the most reliable machines, and that's what I'm looking for at this time. If I buy a Rincon, the first mod would defiantly be the front locker kit. I've maintained my Grizz obsessively, I should not have had these problems. Time to move on.

This is funny greygriz, but come to think of it , I am getting along in age and the dimentia charge might have some merit to it. But no, I do know the difference of riding a Grizzly in regular 4x4 mode and in the "Locked" mode. I found the 660 and 700 shared the same charactoristic when riding in the 4x4 mode. My brother did not purchase the 700 Grizzly with PS because of the $900 extra charge. There is more feedback resistance from the grizzly when in normal 4x4 mode, and when locked, it is best advised to be going straight-line. I don't need to tell you that though. I haven't ridden his new 550 Griz, but am looking forward to it next time I am in Louisiana and go riding with him. On our last trail trip, I did go up against him on his 700 Griz and had no problem keeping up with him on the trails when he was the rabbit. It was not easy, but I did open up on him when he was giving chase while I was the rabbit. But who are we but a couple of older guys.
RN; we old guys got to stick together. You and Woodsie both exploit the Honda perspective to maximum effect. Being an older guy, I'm not looking for raw speed and power anymore. Usability and reliability prevail now. I think a Honda might be in my future. But I'll hang onto the Grizzly,(not even worth trading in) for fun in the mud. Maybe build it into a dedicated mudder. It only takes money.

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GreyGrizz wrote:

Rincon-newby wrote:

GreyGrizz wrote:

Rincon-newby wrote:

My brother has had the older Grizzly 660, and now the 700 griz and just bought the 550 griz, and I have to say the Rincon in normal 4 wheel drive is much easier to ride than either of his three grizzlys. He has said himself that he does not like riding his 700 in 4x4 mode. On the Rincon, you can hardly tell the difference between in and out of 4 wheel drive. I have never ridden a Brute Force 750, but I like the concept of its locker. That would be the locker setup I would like to see on the Rincon. My recent trip to Chadwich OHV in Missouri was a testament to the climbing ability of the Rincon. Most all the trails were rated hard to real hard, and took alot of skill to navigate. Rode all of them in 4x4 mode, and can truthfully say that the Rincon was easy to handle throughout that ride. Not to say that after four days of trail riding on that trip our arms were not sore. The Rincon has a one inch lower clearance than the Grizzly at 10", but that one inch makes a huge difference in handling between the two. There is no power steering or locker on the Rincon, but it definitely has a more fun factor than the griz.
RN, I think you're suffering Honda dementia again. I'll never argue the Rincon's trail handling excellence with you. But if you really had trouble riding a Grizz 660 in 4x4, you must have string beans for arms, or I suspect you tried it with diff lock engaged, which does make steering noticeably harder. I started this thread because I'm sick of the troublesome, picayune, problems with my Grizz. But all in all, it has been a good machine. It's never left me stranded on the trail; just in my driveway, when I needed to plow snow. No contesting the Honda's are probably the most reliable machines, and that's what I'm looking for at this time. If I buy a Rincon, the first mod would defiantly be the front locker kit. I've maintained my Grizz obsessively, I should not have had these problems. Time to move on.

This is funny greygriz, but come to think of it , I am getting along in age and the dimentia charge might have some merit to it. But no, I do know the difference of riding a Grizzly in regular 4x4 mode and in the "Locked" mode. I found the 660 and 700 shared the same charactoristic when riding in the 4x4 mode. My brother did not purchase the 700 Grizzly with PS because of the $900 extra charge. There is more feedback resistance from the grizzly when in normal 4x4 mode, and when locked, it is best advised to be going straight-line. I don't need to tell you that though. I haven't ridden his new 550 Griz, but am looking forward to it next time I am in Louisiana and go riding with him. On our last trail trip, I did go up against him on his 700 Griz and had no problem keeping up with him on the trails when he was the rabbit. It was not easy, but I did open up on him when he was giving chase while I was the rabbit. But who are we but a couple of older guys.
RN; we old guys got to stick together. You and Woodsie both exploit the Honda perspective to maximum effect. Being an older guy, I'm not looking for raw speed and power anymore. Usability and reliability prevail now. I think a Honda might be in my future. But I'll hang onto the Grizzly,(not even worth trading in) for fun in the mud. Maybe build it into a dedicated mudder. It only takes money.


Kinda feel left out of the old fart riding club but thats okay ! I still get a chance every deer season to teach some of the younger ones on riding skills and not wrecking when we are doing camp clean-up and scouting. With the 660 Grizz`s smooth ride I can jump the wash-out terraces on the ride and not have to feel it for the next couple of days because riding wheelers for the past 28 yrs on some of the 1st that had no suspension starts to catch-up with you.

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It is hard to imagine no suspension on the quads of today, but those sure were bouncy tires, and were max on the floatation.

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Rincon-newby those were the days of true fun because we use to take advantage of the high flotation tires to actually swim deep creek crossings if you sealed the electrical system against moister had a exhaust system that vented down to keep water from flowing back toward the motor in case you hit a rock or sand bar and had to let off the throttle. Now Days they are vented high above the water level and that is a good thing.

Being able to float across a river or deep creek and keep everything running has been a lost because big 4x4 wheelers that we have today cannot do it without extra flotation devices implemented.

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I own a 2005 Yamaha 660 Grizzly.It has 225 hours and about 2300 miles on it.
So far just oil changes and filter cleaning.No leaks.I ride it hard 50-60 miles almost every weekend.My friend has the same quad with 6000 miles,with no major problems.

I would buy another one.

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Update: Yesterday I decided to start stripping the Grizz down, in order to repair the front pinion seal. I cleaned it up, then dryed it off. I decided to take one last easy ride to warm the gear oil up before draining it. When I got back under the machine, I found the real source of the leak. The overflow/vent line had a split in it directly above the drive shaft. So I cut out the split section and spliced the line back together. Checked gear oil, right up their. Took another ride, and found no more leakage. That made my day; and saved me a ton of work. But I do plan to replace all the vent lines with a better grade plastic, or preferably braided line. My faith in the Grizzly, is somewhat restored; but I still plan to test ride a Rincon soon.

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