BlueRapted wrote:

,but if you want to brag about the newer version than the grizz700 is way better than the rincon680.

BlueRapted wrote:

I think its all personal preference,there are no "bad" atvs now days. Just some with more or better features,but people like rincon-newby are hardcore brand loyalist and can't admitt that their favorite brand is not the "best" ever made. So they turn it into mine is better than yours kinda thing and so I give a hard time. This is turining into a yamaha vs honda thing,and I don't think either brand's atvs are all better than the other brands. And CC,you were into suck??lol

cchagros wrote:

Thanks?

Rincon-newby wrote:


I am not familiar enough with you BlueRapted to know how serious a player you are, but, you are totally wrong about me being a "hardcore brand loyalist". It is just that I love to refute a poster's negative rant on Hondas, and Rincons in particular, just because their claim is not the whole picture, or they just do not have the justified perspective to make the negative claim, eg. haven't ridden one in their life. Features do not give a picture of quality of a particular brand of atv, or a lack of one does not either. The add on of power steering to a quad to improve its steering short falls, does not mean that another brand that hasn't added one to their quad suffers from not having PS. As well, the adding of powerful a engine such as in case of the Thundercat, does not make an overall better handling trail package machine. We become too myoptic on the issues of features per se, and think that adding a feature improves the overall machine above its quality threshhold. If you read Greygrizz's comments from the start of this tread, you will see he showed some dissatisfaction with his machine's reliability, and was thinking of changing to something comparable mentioning the Rincon. It was than that the negative bantering began. Just in the area of design, there is a difference in the Grizzly and Rincon. The Grizzly is somewhere between being a mud machine and a trail machine. The Rincon is a sport oriented trail machine. The Grizzly GC is higher than the Rincon's giving it better mudding ability, but conversely, the Rincon's lower GC gives it better handling on the trails. Is the Grizzly better because of the added GC? If so than the Arctic Cat is even better than the Grizzly because of an even higher GC. It is than all due to a design charactoristic. The Arctic Cat is better in the mud but not as good on the trails. The Grizzly tries to cover both and does good on both. The Rincon is OK in the mud but does exception on trail riding. So, this all comes down to the definition of "best". BUT, this still does not cover the issue of quality between the brands.