Over30
Ontario Canada
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We can argue this till the cows come home. Truth is Honda utility atv's have undersized frames bolted to back breaking suspensions, limited ground clearance, 3 wd, and are greatly underpowered compared to the industry standard atvs.
The cvt trannies that most manufacturers use are as close to bulletproof as one can get and are repaired at a tenth of the price of one honda hydraulic tranny. Any leaky cvt tranny can be easily fixed with some silicon some cpvc piping and half a brain. If you like Honda go and get one, but dont try to tell me how Honda is now making "over the top" atvs when they consistently come in last in every categorized use.
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kmdad
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GreyGrizz wrote:There's no denying that Honda makes great products. When contractors started using Honda generators in the 80's they outlasted the Briggs or Tecumseh equipted units at least three fold. This caused other engine makers to vastly improve their designs. This is also true with other products, such as ATV's. Honda's problem is; if a particular product works well, they are very slow to update it. Even when its common scence upgrades. Such as going with disk brakes on certain models. It took them forever to finally switch to them. If Honda would be a little more bold in modernizing some things, they could truly shock the world with new products.
LOL...I agree that Honda is slow to build a ATV that is as feature filled as say Can Am or Kawi. Ok I agree. However, just like other manufactures that is slow to build a reliable product but have improved, Honda is improving on their features. They now have a Side by Side that is IRS and Diff loc and time will show that reliability wasn't compromised in the process. They now have a mid size ATV with IRS, PS, and 5 speed Auto/manual without compromising reliability.
The reasons that I like Honda, is because when you buy their products, what you see is what you get. With any other manufactures, the fluff is up front to sell the product. Like big exploding banners that say things like "The first 500 with EFI and IRS" or "The most powerful ATV in its class." When you take these machines home and the banners are gone then so is the support. That's when you realize that these features for less comes at a price. And yes over time they will work their bugs out, but only after they sell thousands of these units to consumers to fight with the problems they didn't take care of on the assembly line.
Honda is a manufacture that is right for me... The features that it don't have isn't a big deal for the 500cc machine that I ride. However, my Rubicon has 1400 km on it now and not only does it not give me any grief, but it feels just like the day I purchased it. No rattles, squeeks or problems and that is the feature that's the most impressive of all.
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