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642lbs? Even wet thats alot of weight for a 420.. with a 3.5 gallon tank.
Why does honda still use those 24" tires with 11inch rims? they should just go with 25/x/12's all around IMO.
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Rincon-newby wrote:Just did a little online research and found that the Rubicon/foreman/Rancher models all have Power Steering as an option. That to me would make the Rubicon a good candidate for trail machine.
Adding IRS would put it over the top.
I agree, I would've like to see EFI and IRS, but there were alot of changes to their line this year with the Big Red. I guess next year you may see some changes to the Rubicon.
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wolverine350rider wrote:642lbs? Even wet thats alot of weight for a 420.. with a 3.5 gallon tank.
Why does honda still use those 24" tires with 11inch rims? they should just go with 25/x/12's all around IMO.
Why, the weight is right in there with the IRS Yamaha Grizzly 450 and the Suzuki King Quad 450.
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Rincon-newby wrote:wolverine350rider wrote:642lbs? Even wet thats alot of weight for a 420.. with a 3.5 gallon tank.
Why does honda still use those 24" tires with 11inch rims? they should just go with 25/x/12's all around IMO.
Why, the weight is right in there with the IRS Yamaha Grizzly 450 and the Suzuki King Quad 450.
But BOTH of the ATVs you mentioned are IRS.
The weight of the Big Bear 350 auto is more of a fair comparison.
Dry weight on the Big Bear 350 is: 536 lb
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ksims Do you still have your grizz and if you do how is it working out.Bear hear
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ksims1868 wrote:Rincon-newby wrote:wolverine350rider wrote:642lbs? Even wet thats alot of weight for a 420.. with a 3.5 gallon tank.
Why does honda still use those 24" tires with 11inch rims? they should just go with 25/x/12's all around IMO.
Why, the weight is right in there with the IRS Yamaha Grizzly 450 and the Suzuki King Quad 450.
But BOTH of the ATVs you mentioned are IRS.
The weight of the Big Bear 350 auto is more of a fair comparison.
Dry weight on the Big Bear 350 is: 536 lb
The Rancher refered to in this thread was the 09 Rancher AT which will now have IRS and PS, and a Rubicon like automatic transmission. There is no Big Bear 350 by the way, and the Grizzly 350/Big Bear 400 are air cooled without a dual tranny, and non FI, so there is no comparison. The non IRS Rancher weighs in at 605 wet.
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Rincon-newby wrote:ksims1868 wrote:Rincon-newby wrote:wolverine350rider wrote:642lbs? Even wet thats alot of weight for a 420.. with a 3.5 gallon tank.
Why does honda still use those 24" tires with 11inch rims? they should just go with 25/x/12's all around IMO.
Why, the weight is right in there with the IRS Yamaha Grizzly 450 and the Suzuki King Quad 450.
But BOTH of the ATVs you mentioned are IRS.
The weight of the Big Bear 350 auto is more of a fair comparison.
Dry weight on the Big Bear 350 is: 536 lb
The Rancher refered to in this thread was the 09 Rancher AT which will now have IRS and PS, and a Rubicon like automatic transmission. There is no Big Bear 350 by the way, and the Grizzly 350/Big Bear 400 are air cooled without a dual tranny, and non FI, so there is no comparison. The non IRS Rancher weighs in at 605 wet.
well, buy the sounds of it the tranny is a 5 speed with a manual or auto selector like the Rincon with 2 more gears. I don't think it's Hondamatic. Which isn't a bad thing, the Hondamatic loses too much through the tranny. Should have this system on the Foreman, plus ISR
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Rincon-newby wrote:ksims1868 wrote:Rincon-newby wrote:wolverine350rider wrote:642lbs? Even wet thats alot of weight for a 420.. with a 3.5 gallon tank.
Why does honda still use those 24" tires with 11inch rims? they should just go with 25/x/12's all around IMO.
Why, the weight is right in there with the IRS Yamaha Grizzly 450 and the Suzuki King Quad 450.
But BOTH of the ATVs you mentioned are IRS.
The weight of the Big Bear 350 auto is more of a fair comparison.
Dry weight on the Big Bear 350 is: 536 lb
The Rancher refering to in this thread was the 09 Rancher AT which will now have IRS and PS, and a Rubicon like automatic transmission. There is no Big Bear 350 by the way, and the Grizzly 350/Big Bear 400 are air cooled without a dual tranny, and non FI, so there is no comparison. The non IRS Rancher weighs in at 605 wet. RN, I think Kssims was referring to the Grizzly 350, formally called the Bruin. The Grizzly/Bruin 350 and the Big Bear 400 are both indeed air-cooled. But the Grizz 350 uses a single range auto(no low)trans. The Big Bear 400 is a 5 speed semi-auto. And the original Big Bears were 350's, some model's had a dual range semi-auto, 10 speeds forward and 2 reverse. The new Ranchers do totally outclass the Grizz 350, but the Big Bears have always hung in there with them, especially the latest version with IRS and diff lock. But some Honda people have blinders on; they refuse to acknowledge that any other manufacturer could possibly compete with the mighty red wing. Not saying you're one of "those" people RN, but they certainty are out there.
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Greygriz, the comparison that Ksims was trying to make was about the weight differences. The new Rancher compares to the weights of the Yamaha and suzuki 450 IRS machines and its features are as similar or better than both. The new Rancher also has different gearing than the 08 Rancher to make it more befitting of a trail machine. Don't know about shocks used on the 09, but I hope they are on the level with the Rincon's.
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