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123kawi

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Rincon-newby wrote:

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YOURADHERE wrote:

By the time you take the depreciation hit you're in an even deeper hole.


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my point exactly ^
it will always be cheaper to just keep riding & driving something that is already paid for

It seems a fer pace to get to here from what I said earlier. I fully intend to keep what I have since they are paid for still do a terrific job. Future purchases will not include trading an existing quad, but will be adding to what already have. Its just that I don't find the need for super powered Utility or big bore sport quad, especially when gas is still going up in price.
How does it feel to act old have you ever held anything with power wide open.

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123kawi wrote:

Rincon-newby wrote:

bbqmaster wrote:

YOURADHERE wrote:

By the time you take the depreciation hit you're in an even deeper hole.


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my point exactly ^
it will always be cheaper to just keep riding & driving something that is already paid for

It seems a fer pace to get to here from what I said earlier. I fully intend to keep what I have since they are paid for still do a terrific job. Future purchases will not include trading an existing quad, but will be adding to what already have. Its just that I don't find the need for super powered Utility or big bore sport quad, especially when gas is still going up in price.
How does it feel to act old have you ever held anything with power wide open.

I have developed more into being a purist, where it is just the thrill of riding that gives me ATV joy. I can experience that on a Bayou 220, which is the first atv that I ever rode, or a Honda 250X/250EX, or a Yamaha Warriar/Blaster, or a Suzuki Z400, or whatever else I have ridden in the past. Who do I need to impress with my atv's speed or power. I would much rather ride a street motorcycle to answer my need for speed. Yes I have ridden a 450R WOT on roads in Colorado, on my Lake City ATV trip.

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Rincon-newby wrote:

123kawi wrote:

Rincon-newby wrote:

bbqmaster wrote:

YOURADHERE wrote:

By the time you take the depreciation hit you're in an even deeper hole.


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my point exactly ^
it will always be cheaper to just keep riding & driving something that is already paid for

It seems a fer pace to get to here from what I said earlier. I fully intend to keep what I have since they are paid for still do a terrific job. Future purchases will not include trading an existing quad, but will be adding to what already have. Its just that I don't find the need for super powered Utility or big bore sport quad, especially when gas is still going up in price.
How does it feel to act old have you ever held anything with power wide open.

I have developed more into being a purist, where it is just the thrill of riding that gives me ATV joy. I can experience that on a Bayou 220, which is the first atv that I ever rode, or a Honda 250X/250EX, or a Yamaha Warriar/Blaster, or a Suzuki Z400, or whatever else I have ridden in the past. Who do I need to impress with my atv's speed or power. I would much rather ride a street motorcycle to answer my need for speed. Yes I have ridden a 450R WOT on roads in Colorado, on my Lake City ATV trip.


need for speed on a motorcycle huh?? you obviously have never ridden in the desert. i cant imagine beating my self to death going wfo(25mph) on a kawi.220 not to mention suck everyone elses dust down my throat hole.. because the faster you go the smoother it is and if your fast enough everyone gets to suck your dust.. and by purist did you mean tourist because only tourists go slow

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It takes all kinds so you keep ridding like your old and I will burn your gas for you thanks again for the extra gas.

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123kawi wrote:

It takes all kinds so you keep ridding like your old and I will burn your gas for you thanks again for the extra gas.

Its only my gas if I pay for it. If we ever have a chance to ride together, I may spring for your quads fillup, and you can repay the favor on the next fillup. Those are riding manners. When riding in a group (such as friends) it is considered uncouth and rude to ride so every one else is paying for your rambunctioness. As far as eating dust, any time you ride in dry conditions someone will be traveling through the plume. I'll give due that it is enjoyable to do the drag races, but whats fun about pitting a 300EX to a Banchee or 450R. It is more enjoyable to race close to your machines class or cc size. I would be glad to race a Bayou 220 against other 220 or 250 sized utilities.

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bbqmaster wrote:

Rincon-newby wrote:

123kawi wrote:

Rincon-newby wrote:

bbqmaster wrote:

YOURADHERE wrote:

By the time you take the depreciation hit you're in an even deeper hole.


.


my point exactly ^
it will always be cheaper to just keep riding & driving something that is already paid for

It seems a fer pace to get to here from what I said earlier. I fully intend to keep what I have since they are paid for still do a terrific job. Future purchases will not include trading an existing quad, but will be adding to what already have. Its just that I don't find the need for super powered Utility or big bore sport quad, especially when gas is still going up in price.
How does it feel to act old have you ever held anything with power wide open.

I have developed more into being a purist, where it is just the thrill of riding that gives me ATV joy. I can experience that on a Bayou 220, which is the first atv that I ever rode, or a Honda 250X/250EX, or a Yamaha Warriar/Blaster, or a Suzuki Z400, or whatever else I have ridden in the past. Who do I need to impress with my atv's speed or power. I would much rather ride a street motorcycle to answer my need for speed. Yes I have ridden a 450R WOT on roads in Colorado, on my Lake City ATV trip.


need for speed on a motorcycle huh?? you obviously have never ridden in the desert. i cant imagine beating my self to death going wfo(25mph) on a kawi.220 not to mention suck everyone elses dust down my throat hole.. because the faster you go the smoother it is and if your fast enough everyone gets to suck your dust.. and by purist did you mean tourist because only tourists go slow

BBQmaster, I expected better from you than this. For real speed, it is only common sense that you do this in a controlled manner so your family has many years more of your company. I would never think of topping the 150mph mark on anything but pavement in very controlled conditions. Doing 65 to 70mph offroad is wicked fast for most enclosed vehicles, and on atvs can be pushing the safety envelope. Why ruin your whole day by pushing yourself outside the envelope. Is that what you espouse? Irresponsible!!!

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common sense..thats putting on your helmet, boots, etc. 65-70 off road(unless its built for it, dont even try it) 65+ on a atv or bike is not really pushing the envelope,
And if you ever want to get better you have to push yourself and the machine outside of the envelope. i dont know about you but i never settle for just OK there is always room to improve. so if you think that is irresponsible, you must not have any confidence in yourself or not have any desire to compete and rise to the challange that lay ahead of you

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common sense..thats putting on your helmet, boots, etc. 65-70 off road(unless its built for it, dont even try it) 65+ on a atv or bike is not really pushing the envelope,
And if you ever want to get better you have to push yourself and the machine outside of the envelope. i dont know about you but i never settle for just OK there is always room to improve. so if you think that is irresponsible, you must not have any confidence in yourself or not have any desire to compete and rise to the challange that lay ahead of you

With having younger and less experienced enthusiast riding with me, I will in no way espouse riding "like I stole it". I did ride a difficult steep climb one time with an inexperienced friend riding in my group, and the person on seeing me do it followed suit and wrecked with injury. I will not show off by doing something I might get away with, but if some one less experienced tries the same thing could get injured. I will espouse moderation, and back again to the idea of a purist approach, "riding for the enjoyment of it". Don't get me wrong, I love to challenge myself as was the case on the Chadwick OHV ride I did this summer. I do like to "rip it" on my 400EX when riding in my local favorite spot, but I always try to leave a positive impression of ATV riding for others to see. That is what I think is the proper approach to this fine sport.

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Rincon,my first atv was a Bayou. Then I moved up to a Big Bear 350.Lots of difference in the ride.I have a KQ now,and its awesome with power!Love the FI,no more cold starts.I agree about the agressive riding.We have had some kids hurt just riding in the woods.




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I think now is a critical time in the development of the sport and it is still growing and highly successful. But it is under the eye of environmentalist who would love to shut the sport down. People who ride with no consideration for those around them, riding uproariously or at high noise levels tends to leave a bad impression with all those who observe the sport, and may want to join. It is getting to the point where I endorse having a rider safety course required before purchasing a new atv.

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