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zigafoose

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West Virginia has already banned all side by side style ATV from ANY AND ALL paved road in the state.
Talking with my friend who owners the local Honda/Yamaha dealership it has drastically cut down the sales of their Rhinos.
Now WV has passed a new one that bans all other ATV from the roadways it does leave open to each county an option to overrule it and allows limited use of berms.
In the counties I ride someday's we can rack up 150 miles or more but this requires some riding on paved undivided roads which had previously been allowed.It also raises a problem if one county elects to override the bill and another does not because we made ride in an area covering two sometimes 3 counties.
THIS SUCKS!!!!!!!
Here is what the Charleston WV Newspaper reported on the new bill
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February 27, 2008
Tougher ATV bill passes Senate
Law would ban vehicles from paved roads
Legislation intended to discourage all-terrain vehicles from operating on paved roads passed the Senate Tuesday on a 33-0 vote.
By Phil Kabler
Staff writer
Legislation intended to discourage all-terrain vehicles from operating on paved roads passed the Senate Tuesday on a 33-0 vote.

The bill (SB567) would technically ban ATVs on paved roads, except to cross roadways.

However, ATV riders could still operate their machines for up to 10 miles on the berm of paved roads, or on the far right side of the lane on roads without berms.

"It just sort of prevents you from joyriding down an asphalt road," Sen. Shirley Love, D-Fayette, said of the bill, which now goes to the House.

"There aren't as many joyriders as there once were, if you look at the obituaries," Senate Finance Chairman Walt Helmick, D-Pocahontas, commented.

The bill also continues the exemption from ATV laws for ATVs being used for farming, oil and gas drilling, surveying and other commercial operations.

Still, Senate Transportation Chairman John Unger, D-Berkeley, said the legislation is an improvement over current law.

"According to those concerned about safety with ATVs, they say it is a step forward," Unger said. "The intent is to get these vehicles off these paved roads."

The legislation was sought by ATV safety advocates to address consequences of the state's 2004 ATV law, which legitimized the operation of ATVs on any paved roads without center-lines. That goes against ATV manufacturers' warning against operating the vehicles on pavement.

Since the 2004 law was passed, fatal ATV accidents have increased in West Virginia, with a total of 134 deaths since 2004 - including a record 54 in 2006. Nearly two-thirds of the fatalities recorded between 2005 and 2007 occurred on paved roads, according to a study commissioned by the Manchin administration.

Karen Coria, an ATV safety lobbyist, called the vote in the Senate - traditionally the toughest obstacle for ATV laws - a "very positive step."

"I'm convinced - and statistics will certainly show - by passing this legislation, it will result in fewer deaths, and certainly fewer accidents."

An important aspect of the bill, she said, is that counties and municipalities can enact tougher ordinances - or make exceptions to the law, as towns along the popular Hatfield-McCoy Trail have done to accommodate ATV tourism.

"The single most important thing that could be done for safety, according to the report,

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zig its happen all over tougher laws and it bites big time, 2008, here if your under the age of 16 then you have to have an ATV card, over 16 a divers licence's are an ATV card. under 7 you can't drive a ATV. For rentals there trying to make it so that we can give temp ATV cards witch will be good for 1 month. But it will take an hour just to give one out to some one, like who has time for that when your just traveling threw here.


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zigafoose wrote:

West Virginia has already banned all side by side style ATV from ANY AND ALL paved road in the state.
Talking with my friend who owners the local Honda/Yamaha dealership it has drastically cut down the sales of their Rhinos.
Now WV has passed a new one that bans all other ATV from the roadways it does leave open to each county an option to overrule it and allows limited use of berms.
In the counties I ride someday's we can rack up 150 miles or more but this requires some riding on paved undivided roads which had previously been allowed.It also raises a problem if one county elects to override the bill and another does not because we made ride in an area covering two sometimes 3 counties.
THIS SUCKS!!!!!!!
Here is what the Charleston WV Newspaper reported on the new bill
you can follow the link or read be

Linky

February 27, 2008
Tougher ATV bill passes Senate
Law would ban vehicles from paved roads
Legislation intended to discourage all-terrain vehicles from operating on paved roads passed the Senate Tuesday on a 33-0 vote.
By Phil Kabler
Staff writer
Legislation intended to discourage all-terrain vehicles from operating on paved roads passed the Senate Tuesday on a 33-0 vote.

The bill (SB567) would technically ban ATVs on paved roads, except to cross roadways.

However, ATV riders could still operate their machines for up to 10 miles on the berm of paved roads, or on the far right side of the lane on roads without berms.

"It just sort of prevents you from joyriding down an asphalt road," Sen. Shirley Love, D-Fayette, said of the bill, which now goes to the House.

"There aren't as many joyriders as there once were, if you look at the obituaries," Senate Finance Chairman Walt Helmick, D-Pocahontas, commented.

The bill also continues the exemption from ATV laws for ATVs being used for farming, oil and gas drilling, surveying and other commercial operations.

Still, Senate Transportation Chairman John Unger, D-Berkeley, said the legislation is an improvement over current law.

"According to those concerned about safety with ATVs, they say it is a step forward," Unger said. "The intent is to get these vehicles off these paved roads."

The legislation was sought by ATV safety advocates to address consequences of the state's 2004 ATV law, which legitimized the operation of ATVs on any paved roads without center-lines. That goes against ATV manufacturers' warning against operating the vehicles on pavement.

Since the 2004 law was passed, fatal ATV accidents have increased in West Virginia, with a total of 134 deaths since 2004 - including a record 54 in 2006. Nearly two-thirds of the fatalities recorded between 2005 and 2007 occurred on paved roads, according to a study commissioned by the Manchin administration.

Karen Coria, an ATV safety lobbyist, called the vote in the Senate - traditionally the toughest obstacle for ATV laws - a "very positive step."

"I'm convinced - and statistics will certainly show - by passing this legislation, it will result in fewer deaths, and certainly fewer accidents."

An important aspect of the bill, she said, is that counties and municipalities can enact tougher ordinances - or make exceptions to the law, as towns along the popular Hatfield-McCoy Trail have done to accommodate ATV tourism.

"The single most important thing that could be done for safety, according to the report,
Is this new law going to effect the Hatfield McCoy system? Seems like the state is cutting it's own throut, with this. That system brings a lot of revenue to an otherwise deppressed area.

* This post was edited 02/29/08 05:29am by GreyGrizz *

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These are the types of laws that may save a few lives but costs lots of money in revenue lost.

I would much rather see our law makers doing something about illegal immigration.


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Grizz with the county opt out option, hopefully the counties surrounding those trail heads will choose not to participate. The didn't outlaw riding on the side of the road so it should still be possible for some kind of travelling from trail head to trail head without reloading the truck.


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Thats the way I read it. I'd rather be on the side of the roadway then riding down the middle of the road anyway. There's alot of fools on the road in vehicles that are much heavier then a ATV. Have a run-in with one and you'll probably stay off the roads, maybe permanently!

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pual0101 wrote:

Grizz with the county opt out option, hopefully the counties surrounding those trail heads will choose not to participate. The didn't outlaw riding on the side of the road so it should still be possible for some kind of travelling from trail head to trail head without reloading the truck.
Yes I see it now, reading the whole thing. I was to lazy to read it entirely earlier, because I had just got up. CC told me, when he went down there that you could drive the machines right into the towns for fuel and food. I think that's pretty cool.

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GreyGrizz wrote:

zigafoose wrote:

West Virginia has already banned all side by side style ATV from ANY AND ALL paved road in the state.
Talking with my friend who owners the local Honda/Yamaha dealership it has drastically cut down the sales of their Rhinos.
Now WV has passed a new one that bans all other ATV from the roadways it does leave open to each county an option to overrule it and allows limited use of berms.
In the counties I ride someday's we can rack up 150 miles or more but this requires some riding on paved undivided roads which had previously been allowed.It also raises a problem if one county elects to override the bill and another does not because we made ride in an area covering two sometimes 3 counties.
THIS SUCKS!!!!!!!
Here is what the Charleston WV Newspaper reported on the new bill
you can follow the link or read be

Linky

February 27, 2008
Tougher ATV bill passes Senate
Law would ban vehicles from paved roads
Legislation intended to discourage all-terrain vehicles from operating on paved roads passed the Senate Tuesday on a 33-0 vote.
By Phil Kabler
Staff writer
Legislation intended to discourage all-terrain vehicles from operating on paved roads passed the Senate Tuesday on a 33-0 vote.

The bill (SB567) would technically ban ATVs on paved roads, except to cross roadways.

However, ATV riders could still operate their machines for up to 10 miles on the berm of paved roads, or on the far right side of the lane on roads without berms.

"It just sort of prevents you from joyriding down an asphalt road," Sen. Shirley Love, D-Fayette, said of the bill, which now goes to the House.

"There aren't as many joyriders as there once were, if you look at the obituaries," Senate Finance Chairman Walt Helmick, D-Pocahontas, commented.

The bill also continues the exemption from ATV laws for ATVs being used for farming, oil and gas drilling, surveying and other commercial operations.

Still, Senate Transportation Chairman John Unger, D-Berkeley, said the legislation is an improvement over current law.

"According to those concerned about safety with ATVs, they say it is a step forward," Unger said. "The intent is to get these vehicles off these paved roads."

The legislation was sought by ATV safety advocates to address consequences of the state's 2004 ATV law, which legitimized the operation of ATVs on any paved roads without center-lines. That goes against ATV manufacturers' warning against operatin

"The single most important thing that could be done for safety, according to the report,
Is this new law going to effect the Hatfield McCoy system? Seems like the state is cutting it's own throut, with this. That system brings a lot of revenue to an otherwise deppressed area.



It will NOT effect H&M

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pual0101 wrote:

The didn't outlaw riding on the side of the road so it should still be possible for some kind of travelling from trail head to trail head without reloading the truck.


The promlem with that is there are lots of places where there is no berm to ride on.
Paul you know how the roads are around here heck we are lucky to have roads out in Wirt and some of the others
I was talking with Jeff at Devols he said it was killing the sales of Rhinos and he had helped entered a bill in Charleston to reverse the decision

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Yea I know how the roads are, Wirt county is another great example of the WV infratructure. But I doubt you're going to have a lot of trouble with the law enforcement in those counties. It's always been my experience that if you're not causing trouble or doing anything stupid, they will pretty much let you be.

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